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To obtain the same rights, benefits, and privileges as a marriage they need a domestic partnership — something that is already legal. Why are they making themselves look like incompetent babies? They lost. Move on.
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Oooh, good one Brian! Good one. Yawn.
I’ve seen MANY marriages that nvolded a man, a woman, and when shes not home, ME!!!
We’ll fight for our rights until we get ‘em!! MOVE ON!! :@)
Why can’t bigot headed Christians understand we dont give a flying fxck? (:
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Because a domstic partenship doesn’t give the exact same legal rights, especially depending on the state, thats half of what they’re fighting for.
marriage is not about a man and a woman .. marriage is about love. its not the body people fall in love with (or wat there packing), its the person.
If the vote had swung the other way, would you be able to move on as easily as you suggest? Somehow, I doubt it.
Can’t we all just get along. Love is love!
– xoxo everyone
Why can’t people in general understand that historically that hasn’t always been true. If you look at human history world wide life long heterosexual monogamy is not only not the rule, it’s been one of least successful forms of marriage ever tried, just look at the divorce rates and levels of infidelity, those are not something that just started, they’ve been around as long as the institution itself.
As to moving on, your argument applies just as readily to the anti-choice movement concerning Roe vs Wade. Should you not also be telling them that they are making themselves look like incompetent babies who lost and should move on?
marriage is more than just a man and a woman!!!!!!!marriage is a COUPLE that is in love. are u telling me that only a man and woman can be in love. and how can u be so inn sensitive to those who love people not of the same of u. if i was gay do u think i don’t deserve to be happy just because my dna has more of one chromosome then the other. i am a very successful conductor of many very popular choral groups. i am also the teacher @ harrington university for theory in music. so are u saying after all of my hard work through life i don’t deserve to settle down with the person that i love and have a family? because if u are implying that then i think u are a lost soul not ready for this new world of more than just one kind of person.
if the world was filled with all the same kind of beings do u think life would be interesting? because i don’t , that is why god created snow, rain, hail, hurricanes, because life cant just be filled with one thing. the world is a place of variety and if ur not open to that than u just go along having the same meal every night and stick to ur schedule that never changes and enjoy ur senseless journey of an un-experiencable world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AGREE with your question but not your details….im not for it being called marriage but you need to get your facts strait (no pun) its not the same when it comes to things like insurance and a few other things but the point is its not the same, and if it was then they would truely have nothing to complain about but they still would b/c they want to intude on somthing special like marriage….i think they should call it gay marriage and have to refer to it as that…..if they dont wanna take the title of domestic partnership the truth is they should turely make marriage and domestic partner ship the same thing but like i said they would still bitch
does this hurt you in any way? no, of course it doesn’t, they are just people who are in love!
whos the incompetent baby now!
Why didn’t blacks give up? Why didn’t women?
When will never give up because RIGHT IS RIGHT and until we receive equality we. Will. Never. GIVE. UP!
saying that homosexuals should be content with domestic partnership is the same as saying black people should be content with having to sit at the back of bus because it still gets them to their destination.
I agree with Big D. I’m bi, and if i felt the need and passion towards another man enough to “marry them” i would, but i do not think it should be called marriage. Marriage is partially biblical, and i respect that. Civil Unions and what not are fine and i agree with it.
my question is why do straight people care if it doesnt affect them and doesnt have anything to do with them? They get married to the ones that they love right?
Because we’re deluded in thinking that marriage is about love and respect. And that since we are Americans, derived from brave people who left their own country because of intolerant religious persecution, we believe that we have certain basic inalienable rights.
We pay taxes, fight in wars, and perform both good actions and bad actions. We are simply people.
My basic right of marriage should not be contingent on the comfort level of others. It wasn’t that long ago (1967) that the federal law finally banned all restrictions on interracial marriage.
As a country we all learned before that time (focusing mainly on education and health services) that “separate but equal” doesn’t work. It took our country a while but thankfully and rightfully it was outlawed as it was “unconstitutional”.
The rights and privileges in domestic partnerships in many states has been reduced in the last 6 years, affecting both homosexuals and heterosexuals. I know for Utah specifically the platform for this amendment to their state constitution was based largely on limiting the rights of homosexual partnerships.
Should my rights be denied simply based on the person I fell in love with ?
No.
This is why we protest.
Domestic partnerships are legal? Not in this state.
Before you dismiss my marriage, why don’t you read on & check my link at the end of this answer on the 1,138 benefits that come with marriage that gay couples are not entitled to when they enter into Domestic Partnerships, Civil Unions, OR gay marriage.
Domestic partnerships are legal in only a handful of states, that’s true. But Domestic Partnerships are not the same as marriage:
1. Domestic Partnerships( DPs) & Civil Unions (CUs) are not recognized by the federal government.
2. If a person has a domestic partnership/civil union in a state where that relationship is recognized as such, & the couple moves to another state, the new state does NOT have to recognize the DP/CU because of DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act).
3. DPs/CUs s do not receive spousal benefits, inheritance benefits, child custody, visitation of partner/decisions about health care in the hospital if partner is incapacitated, etc. outside the state where the DP/ CU is recognized
5. In addition, the General Accounting Office points out 1,138 benefits (survival benefits from Social Security, Veterans Benefits, federal employees’ health insurance, etc) that are denied to GLBT couples who are in DPs/ CUs.
To break it down, this means:
1. Civil union ARE NOT recognized in any of the 50 states or any territory of the US.
2. I wouldn’t be able to go back into the military as an Officer & have my union recognized. This means my spouse wouldn’t get the same benefits as a military spouse.
3. My spouse can be fired from her job just for being in a civil union with me. There is no protection for her if she is gay (& no, she’s not in the military. She works for a private agency- church-that can discriminate against sexual orientation because of their religion)
4. The federal government still taxes me on health insurance benefits from my employer when I put my spouse on my health insurance in states where DPs/ CU are legit. I live in CA, & I’ve had the hit on my taxes.
5. I’m unable to have the civil union paperwork confidential (the same option given to married straight couples), & since people can still discriminate against GLBTs in employment, this threatens my livelihood. That’s one reason we have a confidential marriage.
6. The federal government will not recognize a civil union for tax purposes, custody cases involving my partner’s blood relatives should my partner become incapacitated or dies, or inheritance rights.
7. Straight people don’t have the option to get a civil union instead of married if they wanted one. I mean, marriage & DPs/CUs are equal in the eyes of the state, then why can’t straight folks get a CU or DP if they want one? In addition, if they WERE able to get the DP/CU, it wouldn’t be recognized by the state (unless 1 person was at least 62 out here in Cali) & federal government.
8. Even if we pass whatever background check required by an adoption agency, my spouse & I would be unable to adopt children & raise them wherever we live in the US. There are laws on the book in Florida & Arkansas against gay adoption.
It’s not about the name. It’s about having the same benefits as any other married couple, and for any straight couple (who wants it) to be able to enter into a civil union as well. If DPs & CUs provided the same 1138 benefits as marriage while not calling it marriage, I’ll be in line, no problem. Unfortunately, this won’t happen.
Most of the major religious groups claim they would be ok with civil unions. But if you look on their websites or ask someone in their hierarcy of their church’s position, they are OPPOSED to civil unions & domestic partnerships, & of course, the notion of gay marriage. So, what would you have the LGBT community do? What is a real, legal, alternative to LGBTs who want to make sure that their families are taken care of?
There is little room for compromise between the majority of the major religions (I did say majority, not all) & the LGBT community when it comes to gay marriage OR civil unions/domestic partnerships. How can a compromise be worked out if one side refuses to even listen to us? How can people deny rights that would ensure my family would be protected in case something happens to me or my spouse?
In order for the same rights to be given to 2 consenting adults who qualify for marriage without violating any existing laws in that state, something has to give. I’m not trying to marry my 1st cousin (which, btw, is legal in quite a few states) or another blood relative, a minor, animal, 2 or more people, or an inatimate object. LGBTs want to marry another adult that they love. We were married on the 1st of November, before the people took away the right for gays to marry each other.
Separate but equal, in this case, is not equal. When Domestic Partnerships offer the same benefits as marriage, & those benefits are recognized throughout the US in every state & by our own government, then we’ll stop with our struggle.
Does this answer your question….
becuz all gay people are stupid..idiotic..and feel discriminated everytime someone says marriage should be between a man and a woman..thats what makes it so sacred..thats what marriage is about sanctity..god ordains man and woman..anything you say about gay people that is said in a negative manner..they think its discrimination..well boo-hoo!!!! gay people wanna destoy the sanctity of marriage by letting them get married..i mean if we let gay people marry then we might as well let a man and a horse get married in a chaple…lol..screw all gay people..thye are dumb..and way too sensitive…i agree thye should move on..we banned it..get over it..its done..finished..complete..over with..its not like thye can make babies..
“COWrugger2OG” said it the best i think.
1. Separate but equal, isn’t.
2. Most places which have domestic partnerships do not offer the same legal implications as marriage.
3. Where is it written in stone that marriage(something that isn’t a natural phenomenon anyway!) requires a only a man and a woman? Oh, the bible? Well, can I write my own book and use that as an argument then?
4. Trying to degrade our struggle for equality? Weak attempt. Next!
for god sake how can people be so low these days and not accept everyone how they are?!..It would be so much better with NO labels, everyone could be who they are without any caryon and it wouldnt be a big deal to all the homophobs everywhere because there is really no point to it! Marriage does not involve man and woman..it can involve man + woman..man and man or woman and woman..you cant control who you love, if you could there would be no point because it wouldnt really be classed as love..it just happens..love is love, no matter the gender!